Euthydemus

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Euthydemus
Plato
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I think not, said Ctesippus.
Well, but do rhetoricians, when they speak in the assembly, do nothing?
Nay, he said, they do something.
And doing is making?
Yes.
And speaking is doing and making?
He agreed.
Then no one says that which is not, for in saying what is not he wouldbe doing something; and you have already acknowledged that no one can dowhat is not. And therefore, upon your own showing, no one says what isfalse; but if Dionysodorus says anything, he says what is true and whatis.
Yes, Eu
...thydemus, said Ctesippus; but he speaks of things in a certainway and manner, and not as they really are.
Why, Ctesippus, said Dionysodorus, do you mean to say that any onespeaks of things as they are?
Yes, he said--all gentlemen and truth-speaking persons.
And are not good things good, and evil things evil?
He assented.
And you say that gentlemen speak of things as they are?
Yes.
Then the good speak evil of evil things, if they speak of them as theyare?
Yes, indeed, he said; and they speak evil of evil men.


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