Johyne Beverly Osborne : Oral History Project [1979]

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And I realized then that you'd have to be White, to make any progress. You know, you could just see that.
JW: But just as you said you felt no particular disadvantage in being female, did you feel it a disadvantage being Black? I mean, did it bother you, or did it anger you or were you ashamed in any way?
JBO: No, I wasn't. I tell you, I was an awful dull person. (Chuckle) No, I guess it was because I was never raised to think Black wasn't... you know, was bad. I knew, we had friends that "pass
...ed" on their jobs. And I knew that if I was fair-skinned, you know, there were jobs in offices and things that I would have no pro- blem getting. I knew that. Sometimes thinking about jobs I might have wished I was my mother's color--fair. But aside OSBORNE Tape 2 Page 53 from that, no. It was the economics of color that was upset- ting. Because you had friends that you knew were "passing" where they worked. And they were making more money because of that.
JW: How did you meet your husband?
JBO: He came here to college.


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